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Honest Feedback
Honest Feedback offers compassionate support, advice and new perspectives on navigating life's challenges.
Honest Feedback
Sexual Fantasy & the Shadow Self: How Core Energetics Awakens True Aliveness with Jana Sinyor and Angela Ai
What if the parts of you you’ve been hiding are actually holding the keys to your aliveness?
In this raw, deeply human episode, we sit down with Jana Sinyor and Angela Ai, founders of the Metamorphosis Core Energetics Institute
, to explore what happens when you stop trying to fix yourself—and start feeling everything.
Core Energetics is an embodied, truth-centered path that welcomes every part of you: your rage, your jealousy, your fear, even your sexual fantasies. These two incredible women guide people to bring what’s been hiding in the shadows into the light, so the energy that’s been stuck can finally move.
We talk about:
✨ How sexual fantasy often reveals unmet childhood needs—not something “wrong” with you.
✨ Why suppressed anger and shame disconnect us from our pleasure and power.
✨ The alchemy that happens when we allow our bodies to lead.
✨ What it really means to express yourself fully—especially in love, parenting, and leadership.
✨ And how real, embodied presence turns conflict into connection.
Lisset and I also share how attending their Sexual Fantasy Workshop cracked something wide open for both of us—how allowing rage and truth to move through our bodies actually deepened our love and reignited our intimacy in ways we never expected.
If you’ve ever been afraid of your own emotions or curious about shadow work, this conversation is your invitation to step closer. Because the truth is… what you’ve been avoiding might just be the portal to your power.
🌹 Connect with Jana & Angela:
Metamorphosis Core Energetics Institute
Instagram: @angelaai | @janasinyor
🔥 Your Invitation to Passion Ignited
If your soul has been whispering “I want more…” more pleasure, more presence, more you, this is your sign.
Join me and my sister in magick, Jess Alfaqih, for Passion Ignited, a one-day retreat on November 8th, 2025, just outside Portland.
We’re gathering on sacred land for a day that’s part ritual, part activation, and pure feminine fire. Think sensual movement, pleasure magick, sacred ceremony, and high-vibration food that nourishes your whole being.
Come to remember what it feels like to be fully alive in your body. To feel turned on by your own existence. To meet yourself, and other women, in truth, laughter, softness, and fire.
✨ Investment: just $111 (yes, really).
✨ Space: intentionally intimate — when it’s full, it’s full.
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Honest Feedback was created by Brittney King and Lisset King.
Note: Honest Feedback Podcast aims to provide insights and provoke thoughtful reflection. The opinions expressed in this episode are for informational purposes only and should not replace professional advice.
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You know, we're trying to help people see what are these beliefs that you're carrying around. And how are you actually recreating those sit those beliefs and in a certain pattern in relationship with people, with yourself. And to do that, you have to go to the darkest places in yourself, the place that you do not want to see, the place that says, I will never show this part of myself.
Goddess Brittney:Welcome to Honest Feedback, the podcast where deep truth meets bold transformation. I'm Goddess Brittany King, a pleasure priestess and a transformational retreat facilitator who helps women connect to their deepest truths, reclaim their pleasure, and awaken their inner power.
Liset:And I'm Lisette King, an emotional ninja and transformational coach who helps leaders release baggage, heal unresolved trauma, and step into their most aligned, purposeful lives. We've created this podcast for spirit-led individuals just like you. Seekers of truth, personal growth, and meaningful connection. Whether you're navigating life's big questions, craving more joy and fulfillment, or simply looking for honest, relatable conversations, you're in the right place.
Goddess Brittney:Welcome to this week's episode of Honest Feedback. We feel so good to be back, rested from Hawaii, from our Hawaiian Energy Works School. It was such a good workshop. It was so good. Yeah. It's a workshop, it's a school, it's a it's a lifestyle.
Liset:It's a so much life has happened, but I'm really excited about today's episode. Yes. Because speaking of life happening, we went to a workshop in Austin, Texas called Metamorphosis. And it was a workshop on sexual fantasies. We got very excited. Um, very excited. And we very, very, very excited about this and the opportunity that we had there. And it was unlike anything we'd ever done before. It was beyond, beyond just presence. It was a lesson in being human. It was a lesson in um just feeling alive. There was some wonderful aliveness. What did you what would how would you sum up what you received before we get into this comment? Sum up.
Goddess Brittney:Um for me, it was exactly what I have been seeking. I was able to find. How would I say it? Nothing was quite reflecting to me what my blind spot was. Um and it's very funny. Um, I'm trying to say from very ha-up place. When you've been on the path in a particular field for a while, it's like, well, I know, I know quite a bit. You know what I mean? Yes. And shocker, we all still have blind spots and we're still humans. I know. I know. I have them. And I had a blind spot, and I was just like, I know how the symptoms are showing up about this, but I haven't quite found what the problem is. And I had brought it to a few other practitioners, and I hadn't quite cracked it.
Liset:Yeah.
Goddess Brittney:And this experience cracked that for me.
Liset:Yeah. I just feel like I got so much more than I bargained for, and I'm really excited to talk to them because it has been the journey since we've been back, has been kind of trying to explain it, but not really being able to explain it. Much like our own work. Much like our own work. Like, what do you guys do? Well, there's a vibe. There's a vibe. There's some sheepskins. You're gonna be transformed. We went to Austin, the view was incredible. We went deeper than we'd ever gone before, and we went into the dark crevices of our soul and came out just more connected and deeper in love. Yeah. So that face. I know. Just yeah. What we received from it was so much more than we can, we've been able to put into words, and we knew we had to have them on our podcast. Yeah.
Goddess Brittney:So the them is these two incredible facilitators, Jenna and Angela, and they run a school called the Metamorphosis Core Energetics Institute. And they put on these workshops. They do something called Core Energetics. What is it that you may ask? We had no fucking idea. I'm not gonna do it just I'm not gonna do it justice. And we didn't even know that's what it was when we signed up for it. We just, it was a sacred invitation from a dear friend, which by the way, you should always listen to those. Yes. Um, when a dear friend says, Hey, I think you should do it, just say yes.
Liset:Let's go. Yeah.
Goddess Brittney:And I had a prophetic dream. It was all the things. Um, we said yes, and we are so grateful that we said yes. So we were like, this was so moving. We want to bring them on to share with our audience about them, about their work, about what's possible. And yeah, they can explain to you what core energetics is because I still cannot. So yeah.
Liset:And uh before we give them a call, please make sure you like, subscribe, share this with anyone that you love, anyone in your community. Uh, keep this little podcast going. Yes.
Goddess Brittney:Also, I just feel so grateful that we are we I like to think of us as the scout bees. Yeah. We go out and we find the good nectar. We're like, this is where the pollen is, this is where the nectar is. Tell all the other bees. This is one of those episodes. Yes. We found some nectar, we found some pollen. We're telling the other bees where to find it. So when we don't have the answers, we have a directory of the highest frequency other practitioners, and we're so grateful to be able to share them with you. Yeah. Okay, let's give them a call.
Liset:Let's hi, Angela and Janna. So excited to have you here today. Hi. Hi, guys. We're excited to be here.
Angela :Yeah, nice to see you.
Liset:Yeah. We were we were sharing with our audience that we got to spend just the most epic, profound weekend with you. And much like it was in life, it was a little hard to explain in but just because it was so profound. And one of the gifts that I was given was the gift of presence. You know, going through that weekend, we moved through so much in our own personal lives, and it created this opening and space for us to be just more in the moment than ever before. And I would love to hear, in your own words, how do you share and how do you serve in the world? Well, okay, I can start.
Jana:Um I guess I share by embodying this work that has changed my life and embodying my excitement for it. Um and Angela and I co-run an institute that trains core energetics practitioners, which is what we are. Um and it's delightful for me to give other people an experience of themselves, a deep experience of themselves. And um in in the same way that I was given that, which is the whole reason. Um I'll say more about that later, but I left my career and in order to pursue this work, which I was not expecting. I wasn't expecting to become a therapist, a facilitator. I was very entrenched in my screenwriting profession and had such a life-changing experience, series of experiences in groups like the one that you both just participated in, that I felt um compelled to do this all the time. Um, and that led to my uh my friendship with Angela, our collaboration. Um I do this because it's fun for me. Um it it it is enlivening for me. Um and uh if it wasn't fun for me to do this work, I wouldn't do it. Um so yeah, that's a start.
Liset:And Angela, how about you?
Angela :Um, can you ask the question again?
Liset:Yes, of course. So, how do you serve in the world? Tell us a little bit about how you perhaps got into core energetics or um what inspires you to serve this as your medicine.
Angela :Okay. Um, well, let's see. I first um was introduced to it when um my husband and I were looking for a couples therapist, and we really needed to, you know, there was something deep that we were going through and something difficult. And we had gone through a number of couples therapists, and um, I wasn't new to therapy, but my husband was, and so he was a little more particular. And so we went, you know, to different people, and then somebody suggested uh this woman, Ann Bradney, and we went to um a session with her, and when we finished, my husband said, You're not the kind of therapist that just gets people to neutral, you're the kind of therapist that wants to take them to their potential. And I was like, Whoa, that and that felt true and that felt right, and that began my journey in core energetics. I didn't know anything about anything, I didn't really care what that even meant. I just knew that this was helping me. And so um I went into Ann's group um and started doing that work for a little while. And then um, but at the same time, I was acting, I was singing. My life was like, I was I wanted to be on Broadway. I wanted to like, you know, be famous, and I wanted to sing and act and do all those things. And so um I did, and I made it to Broadway, and I was like living my dream, and it was uh, you know, it was it was awesome. And I was in this Tony Award-winning musical on Broadway, I did the national tour, I was in Vegas, you know, the whole thing. And then, you know, after like actually pretty shortly after my Broadway debut, I went into a deep depression. And I didn't understand why, but you know, after you know, many years, I understood that, you know, I was basically my whole childhood was like, this is what I'm gonna do, you know, and this is how I'm gonna get out of the fucked up environment that I was in. What I thought was fucked up, you know. And I thought it was gonna solve everything, and it didn't. And so then, you know, going into this work, it was, I mean, I did a lot of other kinds of healing, you know, things, but going into this work was really what kind of catalyzed, like I like I had a hope, like, oh my God, I'm gonna not just get out of this, but I'm gonna fulfill my potential in some way, you know, like it was what my husband said. And so um, when we were moving, we were we were in New York at the time, and then um my our my our therapist um uh and she she called me and she was um starting up a school for core energetics, she called it radical aliveness, and she was going to be moving to LA and we were gonna be moving to LA at the same time, but she she called to say, I was thinking about you because I'm starting the school and I have a feeling like you would be really great at this. And I was like, No, there is no way I'm ever going to become a therapist that's never, ever, ever going to happen. That was so nice. I was I, you know, she's amazing, she's an like like the top, like a master facilitator. But and so I was so, you know, touched and and uh felt like you know, like wow, I like it's it's something special that she was inviting me to come to the school. And so at the end of the conversation, I was just like, thank you so much, Anne. But you know, this isn't really my thing, but I appreciate you inviting me. She's like, okay, well, it's you know, it's not just so you know, it's not really about becoming a practitioner, it's more about um stepping into your greatness. She said something like that that was like, you know, music to my ears. And I was like, okay, um, stepping into my greatness, okay. She was like, Well, you know, just just feel into it. If you feel a yes anywhere, you know, like then, you know, let me know. And I was like, okay, yeah, I'll let you know, hung up, thinking that's never happening. And then it was either that night or that week, I can't remember, I had a dream. And I dreamt that I was in a group, she was facilitating, I was in a backbend, and she was shaking something out of me, and my head popped open and something fell out. And I stood up and I was like, Oh my God, I'm free. And in the dream, I thought, oh, I want to know how to do this for other people. And I woke up and I was like, Oh my god, I think I'm going to that school. And so I called her and I was like, I have no idea, I didn't know what it was, you know. I just signed up and I was like, I, you know, I'm following my dream and this is what it is. And the first module, my husband and I were literally driving from New York to LA. So I missed that module. But then I went for the next four years. One year at a time, I was like, I'm I can only commit for one year, that's it, you know. And then I was at the end of four years, I became a practitioner. I had my own practice. I I quit acting because my heart was no longer in it. Um, I mean I still sang, but it was like, you know, this is what I wanted to do. And then the the passion for it just grew and grew and grew. My life like completely transformed um many over many times over. And at one point I met Jana and um she said to me, Well, she actually we were doing a workshop together, and she had this flyer out, and it was uh this flyer for a one-year program that she was starting um in in this work. And I looked at it and I thought, oh my God, that flyer is so beautiful, you know, and I and I felt this sense of jealousy that I was like, I I I want to be doing something like this. But what was so weird was that I had told everyone, you know, people were like, Oh, Angela, you should be a teacher, you should do a program. And I was like, No, no, I I definitely do not want to do that. And then when I saw her flyer, I was like, Why do I feel jealous? I didn't say anything to Jana about it. I just said, your flyer is beautiful. And she was like, Yeah, I'm thinking about starting this program. I don't know if I'm gonna do it or not. And then the next week she called me and she's like, Hey, would you want to do this with me? And I was like, Yes, yes, I would. And we started and we did this one year program, and then that led to like then people asked us for a second year, and then people asked us for a third year, and pretty soon we had a school. And so that's you know, we have this four-year program now. And uh that's I don't I don't know how, like, you know, there's a lot of other details, but I'm here now. And, you know, the work that we do, I think is transformational and it's profound and it's deep and it's hard, and uh, but it's ultimately incredibly liberating. And what we're doing is we're helping people become conscious of the places that they're unconscious of. And it, you know, allows for people to get out of patterns um in the ways that they've been stuck for, you know, sometimes decades. So that's me for right now.
Goddess Brittney:Yes. Oh, that's so good. I resonate with so many synchronicities between all of us, the stories, the dreams. I'm like, oh, is core energetics partially dream work? Because as I shared with you guys, a dream is what led me to say the definite yes to your invitation. I had a dream of like getting a random amount of money. And then the next day, a dear friend, Libby, shared, like, hey, you should come to this thing. And it was the exact amount of money that I was tipped in this dream. And I was just like, all right, spirit, heard, definitely going. I don't know what it is. Like, we hadn't even heard the words core energetics. Um, and I felt the resonance of the deep transformation space. Um, and the the aliveness of what I felt like, which you also shared, Jana, was like there's a part of your story where it's like, I was living my path. I was doing what I thought I should do. Angela, I was, I wanted to be on Broadway. I thought this would be my escape. I wanted to be an actor. Women are safe in their bodies and on acting screens. This is what I thought. So this is what I want to do. And then somewhere along the path, spirit goes, We're gonna take you in a different direction because the thing that you actually want is somewhere else. And it's in this space of transformation, it's in this space of alchemy, it's in this space of self-discovery. Um, to start to understand who you truly are.
Speaker 02:Mm-hmm.
unknown:Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Liset:One of the things I loved about even your story and what you empowered me to do in the in the workshop was you said, I felt jealousy, so you you leaned into it. And that's something that in a lot of modalities, or even just in in our culture, when you feel a feeling you don't want to feel, it's just like shove it down, let's not talk about it, let's not look at it. And in the workshop, we went to, just to give a little bit of backstory, we went to a sexual fantasy workshop called Metamorphosis. And we're like, I was just like, yeah, sounds great. Let's go. And it was, there was no way we could expect that weekend in any way, shape, or form. It was so beyond anything that I could dream of, fathom. And the work that was done in that room was it was following for me the dark and scary places I've been avoiding for so long and leaning into it and finding the magic and finding the medicine in it. And it truly did feel like medicine. So one of the things I want to just acknowledge and admire about you is you both as facilitators fully feel your emotions and you you are in the experience with us. Like you're these prolific facilitators and spaceholders, and yet I could see you having your own experience. And that was that's something that I had not experienced myself in the past from other facilitators. Could you speak a little more into how that is and the following, say the jealousy or the anger or the darkness? Like, how is it that you find the light in those places?
Jana:Angela.
Angela :Um, okay. Um well, first of all, I thank you so much for what you just said. Um, because that feels true. And also, you know, what was modeled to us in terms of like the facilitation that we saw that I had never seen before, that a facilitator was human, you know, like they had their own flaws. The teachers that we had revealed themselves to us, you know, and um that was so new and so like not at all what I experienced in my childhood or any with any of my teachers, you know, like teachers are supposed to be, they're supposed to be something, you know. And what our teachers did was embody their humanity, you know, and um they made mistakes and they got mad and they cried and they, you know, they they just they had um they were human emotions, you know, but they also took responsibility for them. Like I didn't have to take care of them in any way. It was just they were just, you know, feeling being human beings. And so that was um, that was something that was incredibly attractive to me, um, as someone who was learning this thing. Um in terms of like uh the shadow, you know, that's kind of the the big part of our work, you know, what I was saying about being becoming conscious of the unconscious. It's like, you know, let's say I'm just giving a very uh specific example, but let's say you're somebody you you like like for example, like I wanted to um teach with with Jana. You know, I was jealous, you know, in this place. And there could be, as you said, there could be a plot of me that would have hidden that jealousy and that would have hidden it from myself, and um to to not let myself know what I want because maybe I have a belief somewhere inside of me that says I don't get to have what I want. And which I do, you know, like that was a very strong, what we call an image, a faulty conclusion that I concluded from my childhood based on the experience that I had. And so, you know, to to to un to dig up these images, these beliefs that we have that we carry around that literally play out in our life, you know, constantly that we are not aware of. This is essentially the work that we're trying to help people do. You know, we're trying to help people see what are these beliefs that you're carrying around, and how are you actually uh recreating those those those beliefs and in a certain pattern in relationship with people, with yourself. And to do that, you have to go to the darkest places in yourself, the place that you do not want to see, the place that says, I will never show this part of myself. And I think that that's what you guys both experienced on some level, to see some places about yourself that maybe you even judged about yourself. Like, you know, I I'm not gonna show this, I'm not gonna know this about myself because this is a bad part of me. This is a part of me that um like nobody's gonna like. I'm gonna get rejected, I'm gonna get abandoned, I'm gonna get shamed. Like, you know, if I if this really comes out, this is this is gonna be, you know, I'm I'm gonna be banished for life. But uh the truth is, is that you know, in this work, we welcome this these parts of ourselves. We and and there's so much energy that goes into these places we're not even conscious of. So for example, like, you know, in the place where I don't get to have what I want, in that moment of jealousy, if I didn't, if I didn't let myself know that I was jealous, if Jana had asked me, I might have been like, no, you know, I'm I don't teach, you know, I wouldn't have even known something about myself. And so we want to, you know, it's like like the places where we're angry, you know, like it's like you like you maybe you have deep rage about something. Well, maybe the rage is there, you know, in the place where you're trying to hide it because you think that rage is bad, you know, because maybe your mom or dad, you know, expressed rage in a way that was unhealthy for you. And so you made a promise, I'm never gonna show that to anyone. But maybe the rage you need like is needed in order to set healthy boundaries with people, you know, like you're mad that all these things are happening to you and you're not letting anyone know. And so it's like I'm giving examples, but because this work is so hard to describe, but the way that we do it, you know, we do it through the body. And so, you know, you come to uh a workshop and you see we have this big foam cube and this bataka and uh or tennis racket and you know, punching bag and punching gloves and a mattress, and you know, we're getting people to hit and to move their bodies and to sit, you know, express themselves in ways that they've never expressed themselves before. And it's like, whoa, that's in there. Okay, let me let me face this, let me deal with this thing, and let me see what the actual response is to this place in me. Is it that people are actually going to be judging me or leaving me or and and uh maybe it is, but then you see you can live through that. Yeah, but a lot of times that's not what it is. A lot of times people come closer because they feel more connected to your you're bringing out a true part of yourself, and it's like good, I'm like this too, you know. And so, yeah, Jenna, did you want to add anything?
Jana:No, I think you're doing so great. Explaining, um, yeah, I mean, you know, you said you came to a sexual fantasy workshop, and I can imagine how that sounds. Sounds like it's gonna be really fun and sexy, yeah. And no, no. It's so painful and terrifying. Um, and uh, Angela, I just think you're doing a really good job of of breaking down how we get to the root of what we all defend against in different ways. Um, and it's hard to get to that place because you've built a life um that confirms that revealing those places isn't going to get you anything. So you do need you do need help. You need to be guided to have a new experience of yourself by people who have gone there and can hold you in that, but also can be real people while they're holding you with in that. Um, and that's the you know, that's the realness of the humanity that that you were talking about being impacted by, I think.
Goddess Brittney:Yeah, yeah, it's um so powerful, and we're all practitioners, but to and humans, but it's like I have a feeling, let me just run away. And like the self-abandonment and how many of us are running a program, creating our life to avoid feeling one specific thing, and the power of being held in a space where you feel safe enough to feel it and come to the other side where you realize, wow, that did not kill me. That did not kill, I did not die because I felt. And it's revolutionary because so much of our world, I mean, so much of my upbringing was like, oh, don't feel that, don't say that, just shove it down, just hold it tight. And if you are just likable enough in the ways that, you know, 8.7 billion people think that you specifically should be likable, you know, you'll be great. And I felt so long living my life so disassociated, so disconnected from myself because I was running these patterns and afraid to feel, afraid to let people know the truth of who I am.
Angela :I'm I'm just curious. I know this is your podcast, but I I'm curious, Brittany. Like, are you feeling something right now?
Goddess Brittney:Yeah, I'm I'm feeling awe. I'm feeling like when you're you don't know what you don't know. You don't know what you don't know. And as someone who has been in the space of a lot of different modalities, I'm like, we can hit it this way, we can hit it this way. Something about your space felt so deeply unlocking for me as someone who works an embodiment and has spent a lot of time um working to not be in a space of disassociation, to reach more truth of myself, of all the places where I have left or continue to leave. Um and having this awareness in myself now that's just really in the front. Um it feels really emotional and liberating, and also like still a bit scary and that's. That awareness of like, I'm not gonna die by letting people know me. And the depth around being a facilitator that's human, it just gives me permission to be more human myself. Um because I mean, even my mother with my mother is a very famous teacher, professional teacher. Um, and all the guides I've had of mentorship teachers, where you it's just this pedestal-y thing, whether they're doing it to for themselves or it's just the dynamic. And to um hear you at one point in our experience, Jana, share that. Hey, I made a micro mistake and share that with the group and just that freedom that everyone felt of like, oh God, she's human. She's human and she's saying she can make a mistake, and that means I can make a mistake too. And like, we're gonna live through this. We're gonna live through this, you know, child of a narcissist. Like, you know, it's just um, yeah, I'm just I'm feeling a lot, even just being in your presence and recounting our time because it just felt so profound. And I personally have been seeking other spaceholders who have big enough space to hold me um for where I am on my journey. And so I also feel just like a reign of gratitude and blessings of like I found people who could hold this. Yeah.
Angela :Well, I I the reason I asked was because I I I could feel you as you were speaking, you know, and um, I mean, I'm crying right now, but I and I, and so I really appreciate you sharing so honestly. And it's like like you being embodied, I can feel you here, you know, and feeling helps me to connect to you, you know. I feel connected and I feel connected to myself. And that that this is kind of, you know, this is what we're doing, you know. We want to like uh we're we want to know how to not betray ourselves in order to start be in connection, but we you know, to be true to ourselves. And I just feel like you just did that, you know, in a way, like that was so beautiful. So thank you.
Liset:Thank you. Thank you, thank you. It touches you, Angela.
Angela :Yeah, it really touches me. It touches me. Um like you know, whenever I see somebody who's really like it like with themselves in in the truth of their feelings, you know, it's like that is a I mean, I think it's a deeply connecting force. Yeah, and uh it's also scary for people, you know, and this is you know, this is kind of the space that we want to hold for people is like it is scary. We know we get it, it's scary for us too, you know. Um it's scary for us to, you know, be on a podcast and reveal ourselves, even, you know, it's like it's it's like to really to share from like what we're passionate about, what we love, you know, how we feel, all of these things. It's it's vulnerable, you know. But and and if you're someone who has been, um, I don't know, like somebody who has been criticized or is like there's been some kind of negative reaction to that, you're gonna want to protect it, you know. And I think that I am somebody who I mean, I have one of my biggest fears is a fear of judgment, you know. So it's like uh, you know, to to to share, like to really expose myself in in any way, like uh in an honest way, yeah, is there's a risk involved in some young part of myself, you know. The truth is that when I when I do, I mean again, it's like what I was saying, it's like, oh, there's more connection here. But but there's also even even if there's connection in a negative way, now I can hold that. Now, if you don't like what I say, you can say that to me, and we can still be in connection. Yeah, that's not easy, you know, like you know, to like hold on to myself in that place. Like this is what we're trying to do for ourselves and what we're trying to train people to do for themselves and for other people with other, you know, with their clients or with their people they work with, or you know, I think that this skill is uh becoming increasingly important, you know, in the world, not just in therapy rooms, but in businesses, in, you know, organizations. It's like to be able to, you know, for the leaders to be able to hold people like and to stay in connection in a way that honors the individual, like who they are, like and while honoring who you are, you know, like that's I don't know. I think it's it's becoming more and more important, you know, given the world that we're in, you know what I mean?
Goddess Brittney:I feel it. Um we are on the journey to becoming parents, and we feel that our son sent us to your experience. Um from this place of like uh a lot of us hold wounds from childhood. I reached out, I shared myself, and my caretaker, the one on the pedestal, the one I thought was God, showed up in some way that I took to be abandonment, rejection, negative, all these different things. And I I feel like I don't say I'm not a parent yet, but I'm like, I feel like it's the ultimate space holder position. Like you're holding space for a soul as they're exploring and to be able to hold that space of presence and connection and allowing and humanity and I'm flawed and we're okay, and to to allow yourself to keep being able to connect. Like, I'm thanks for such an incredible parenthood, you know, baby shower gift like from the universe. I'm just like, wow, God, we're just so spoiled. I love it. Thank you.
Liset:Yeah, it's amazing. I would love to speak into, you know, it's hard to describe happened and what happened in that room and confidentiality, obviously. You know, I'll I I can share from my experience. One of the things, the places I was able to touch was my rage. And in touching my rage, this thing that I've always been like, manage it, put it away, release it, do the work to not engage with it because it's so destructive, or I've seen it be so destructive. And one of the gifts I can I can say from coming out of it was how much I'm Brady looked at me and she goes, Do you just want to be a little more savage? And I was like, Yeah, I think I do. I think I just want to be okay just being a little more savage and not being around people that I don't like being around, and and honoring that boundary that is natural instead of needing to like everyone, you know, like I can hold this boundary of where I am in my development. And the the ability we've had to express upset since we've been with you has been beyond. Wow. Just yeah, we we couldn't, and I'll reveal. Yeah, yeah. So we're like, well, this is me, sexual fantasy workshop. Let's go. And I really, the day we started the process of processing everyone, the first thing I said is, I don't want to go first because I want to see how this goes. So of course, naturally, we went first. And what needed to come through was us fighting and us be, you know, and you had asked us if we ever fight. And I remember having this like we have tools. We have no, we don't fight, like, and yet needing to fight and needing to express and needing to express the upset and moving through it and letting my rage out and letting my rage make her feel fear and having like her watching her be upset and not making it about me. For the longest time, I've come from this place of do your work, do your work, do your work, do your work. And what I learned that weekend was the ability to truly co-regulate and that we can both be upset and love each other through it. And I could be loved in my rage, and she could be loved in her dissociation, and and we can step aside and go, I'm upset. I'm upset that you didn't finish the dishes that happened yesterday. That happened yesterday. I'm upset that I asked you to do the dishes and you didn't do the dishes, and I'm like, okay, all right. I'm upset that you asked me to make dinner while I was folding your laundry. We got to have this like truly co-regulating experience. And I got to be in fear of, well, man, there's going to be consistently a third person around. And it is very challenging to have a date. Right now we have our niece in town, and bless her, she's the absolute like joy of my life. At this moment in time, she's been the closest thing I've had to having a child. And it's a third body in the house. And, you know, I get a little shy around intimacy, what she's around, and she's like, I miss intimacy. And I was like, Oh my God, we're getting the preview of what it's like to have a child around. And she's like, It's okay. And we'll get we'll we'll regulate when we're there together. So, and that's the gift you gave us, and it's really profound. Thank you. Oh yeah.
Jana:I want to say to you, Lisette, that um I have a real strong memory of that moment, you know, and that of you being willing to get angry to reveal that it's so vulnerable for a couple. You made it safer for the whole group. Yeah. I don't know if you guys realize that, but that you going first and and revealing being willing to get in conflict in front of a bunch of strangers when conflict is such a vulnerable thing, it really set the stage for how deep we went that weekend. Um, and you know, there's a sharpness in you, Lisette, that I reckon because I have it too, exactly. And that that is good, that is your love, actually, that is is that is very direct, and that is there's some things you said that came out like like this, you know? And and I I'm just I guess I'm just delighted to hear that you guys are like what you know, that you're letting yourselves be in more conflict. It's very intimate. Um, and you know, some some you know, we can say do your work means I'm peaceful, like I handle all my stuff internally. That is avoidance of your work. Um, you know, which is to reveal yourself honestly and and let it be messy and work through things with someone else, which can be difficult when all that we saw in aggression growing up was destruction and you know, terrorizing disconnection. Um so uh yeah, I just I just wanted to say it had an effect on me. I mean, I I also like Angela, um, I'll just say, you know, I was a screenwriter and I was a showrunner, and um, I came to this work because I had to write a season of a show I'd created that was about therapy, group therapy, and I'd never been to therapy before. And my my first workshop with Ann Bradney with my husband. Um, so my first group experience was of this kind of work, like you guys, was was the two of us together. And um and you know, we did it many, we ended up doing it many times together. And, you know, he and he went and to Ann's program, and I went and studied in the New York program. Both our lives and our marriage completely changed as a result of this work. I left my career and became a full-time score energetics practitioner. Um, but we would collude in groups to not reveal the thing, you know. Um, you know, a couple is like a subgroup within a group, and we we had a mask of our relationship that we would be in, and we would trick the whole group into falling for it.
Liset:Yeah.
Jana:Some version of I'm the bitch, and he's the victim of my, you know, bitchiness or whatever. Um, and that was a safer place for us to be in and for us to to reveal to the group than to to get to what was really going on. So I just want to acknowledge again, like how brave you guys were.
Liset:I love it.
Jana:I wasn't that brave.
Goddess Brittney:We're always where we need to be, and the path's always unfolding perfectly because however you were, it led to you being here. And you're a fucking badass.
Liset:Yeah. Yeah, I I think one thing I want to express is how deeply I feel your love in that space. Like truly the fact that you showed up as such authentic, embodied humans. When you when you spoke, I it was so easy to believe everything, like to drop into trust and sometimes not feel trust. And you're like, it's okay that you don't feel trust right now. And in the fullness of having it was one weekend to feel all the human experiences.
Goddess Brittney:Much like medicine.
Liset:Much like medicine. Really, you know, the the other one of the other deepest experiences I've had in that is is um psychedelic medicine. Except the characters are all happening in my mind, you know. But to interact and co-co-play and co-regulate with in a room full of uh humans being humans was beyond. And I just so grateful for the work that you do. Never knew it existed, which is why we're like, can you be on our podcast so other people can know that you exist?
Angela :Would it be helpful? Like, I mean, I'm aware that you know, maybe we should talk a little bit about like kind of how the structure of it is, you know, like we're we're speaking in very kind of general terms, but absolutely um like the weekend when we're talking about this kind of workshop, like it's a Friday night, um, all day Saturday, all day Sunday, but the Friday night, you know, we're doing an introduction, um, we're talking about this work, um, we're we're kind of setting the stage, but we're ultimately because you guys, you know, a lot of the people who come, they've never met us. So ultimately what we're trying to do is we're trying to develop some trust with us because we know that what we're gonna be asking from you guys is to bring yourselves, you know, and to not hold back and to follow your impulses and to allow yourselves to feel things that you've maybe never felt before. And um, and so in order to do that, you have to, we have to demonstrate in some way pretty quickly that we we've got it, you know. And so, you know, we do some like little group exercises, um, but really like kind of to develop the trust between each other and the the members of the group and with us. And then the following day, you know, the Saturday, we come in, we might do another exercise um that kind of helps people to go deeper, maybe a little teaching about core energetics, about this work, about what it means, the mask, the lower self, the higher self. Um, and then the the but the kind of the the bulk, the the main stage of our work is the process work. And we do that um it's all afternoon on that Saturday. And that's the place where we're asking people, and this is what's what's very difficult to describe when you if you've not done this work, if you've not seen it in some way. Um, it just sounds like like even after I say whatever I'm gonna say, people are gonna be like, huh? What does that mean? Don't hold back and follow your impulses. And you know, but what we're you know, like somebody might, you know, what we're asking is like somebody who has a feeling inside of them or wants to go first and doesn't even know what what that means, like, which is kind of what you guys did. You're like, okay, I'll go first. What does that mean? You know, and to see like what's there, like, because there's always something that's going on inside of ourselves. We don't know, you know, like there's so much that's hidden, but usually something in the group will emerge. Somebody will come forward and be like, okay, I have a feeling, or um, I don't like this, or I'm excited, or um, something's going on with my kid right now, and I just really need to share. Like what it could be, you know, so many things, but somebody comes forward and then we start to work with them and we start to like slowly draw out like what's going on. And as we're doing this, we're asking the group to be present, like really present. And if they're not present, to say that they're not present or to um name like what's happening inside them. Right now, I feel really angry, you know. Right now, I want to leave. Right now, I feel like um I want to just lay down, you know, like you know, whatever it is, you know, we ask people to stand where they want to stand, sit where they want to sit, like to feel free in their bodies, but to stay present to the process because what is happening is happening. The whoever is working, you know, working, I'm saying quotes, what what's coming up for the rest of the group, you're also working, you're also um, there's there are feelings that are coming up inside of you, or not, maybe you're numb, you know, but whatever that is, that's what you're working with in yourself. And the more that that can come in, a lot of times what happens is that the person who's working, if people are saying, Oh, I I don't feel present right now, or I'm feeling really angry right now, these become kind of parts of the person, like, oh um, yeah, there's a part of me that doesn't want to be here right now. The part there's a part of me that's really angry. There's a part of me that, you know, it's like there's all these different parts that are starting to emerge. And then how do we get that to coalesce? You know, how do we get them to connect with each other? Or what's actually happening in this dynamic? What what is what's what's here? We want to welcome all of it, and so in that process, clarity emerges, you know, like something comes from that place, and um, and we, you know, we get people to, like I said, you know, maybe we get people to move their bodies in a way like that expresses feelings that don't get expressed. We get them on the mattress and kicking and hitting, or get them to hit the cube, or you know, punch a punching bag, yeah. Or even just stand there across from somebody and just make eye contact. It can be very simple, it can be very soft, you know, or maybe we play a song or something, you know, maybe somebody holds somebody. It there's it it's you know, endless. Yeah, it's like there's so many different ways that it can go, you know, and but what we're looking for is the truth, you know, of what's uh what's inside of you. And you know, are are you willing, are you willing to risk speaking that or expressing that in some way and seeing what happens as a result? And then, you know, usually, you know, some kind of deeper connection emerges. And if not, you know, maybe sometimes it's like more, you know, chaos or confusion or upsetness happens. That's usually a lot of times what happens on the Saturday night, you know, people go back and they're like totally disturbed, or you know, like, whoa, what just happened? And then they come back on Sunday, and there's more of that processing that happens, you know, like, okay, you know, now let's let's go deeper even. In this particular workshop, we had a focus on sexual fantasy, and we ask people to share about their sexual fantasies if they wanted to. And um what we want to show people is that what you think your sexual fantasy means is not what it means, you know, no matter how uh dark, um the I like the word that Jana uses, depraved. Yeah, that it, you know, that how we how much we judge our fan fantasies and we think, you know, it this means, you know, this and this, it's not, you know, and people inevitably are kind of shocked, you know, by what it actually is bringing up because it has something to do with your deep unmet childhood wound or need. And that's what we're you know trying to get to. And um, you know, that can bring up a lot for people, which it did, you know. So um, yeah, Jenna.
Jana:Yeah, I I just want to go back if I can to something because you're you're trying to explain the inex unexplainable thing about the group. Um and I want to get to the sexual fantasy part, but uh for me, like Angela's talking about the constellation that emerges. And the only way to get to that constellation is if people take risks. And that's our biggest challenge as facilitators is how do we get this group of strangers to start actually taking risks? Um, and in you know, groups where people, you know, this this was a fairly inexpensive, you know, there wasn't like it wasn't like a whole group of people that had done it before many times, but in groups where people have done it before many times and they understand the mechanism of how it works, which is take a risk, take a risk, bring yourself, bring yourself, trust it. You know, you want to move away from someone, move away. You want to move towards, move towards. Like you don't understand why you're feeling this thing, risk bringing it out. And what can happen is something very dynamic where you know, everybody's working simultaneously, and the group field gets really um activated, and everybody's getting what they need, and it's a very enlivening and it's very exciting, and you're part of this um this really wild ride experience, you know, which we we had together several times over the course of that weekend. And um, and it builds on itself, whereas you take risks and you see where it goes, you feel empowered to take more risks. But that is, you know, we have to risk first as facilitators. We have to reveal ourselves in some way. Um, and that's what we're always behind the scenes kind of grappling with. How do we make it safe for you guys to come out more, more, more in places where you don't come out, you don't want to come out, you don't have experience coming out, you know? We're saying, no, no, follow your impulse. You know, there's only three rules. You can't hurt yourself physically, you can't hurt the room physically, and you can't hurt anybody else physically, but you can do anything else. It's like anything, anything mean? What does that mean? You know, like why aren't I bringing out my journal and like taught like you know, we're trying to get people out of their heads into an experience of disorientation where they're out of control. Um and you know, the our our the woman Ann Bradney, who uh was both of our first introduction to this work, is mat like beyond a genius at this. And um, and yeah, that's just like a little behind the scenes peek at, you know, you guys are having a how is this happening experience? And we are just continuously supporting more risk, more risk, more risk, so that yeah, the thing can get as big as it as it wants to.
Angela :Yeah. And what we are hoping is that you'll take that out into your lives, which it sounds like you guys have, you know, like and he that's why it's it's so moving for me to hear you guys are fighting now. Like that is so awesome, you know, that you that that you're now willing to bring out your truth and and be in conflict in order to come into deeper connection. That's that's so awesome. You know, that that's essentially what this is. It's it's a microcosm of the world, you know. It's like you want to build, you want to, you want to be able to take risks in your lives. You know, we don't want to be, I mean, I think at the deepest level, we don't want to be stuck in our fears, you know. We want to take the risks and see what happens, yeah. But you know, yeah, yeah.
Jana:And and you know, we call it metamorphosis, which is like very on the nose name. Yeah, but that is what like you can see Angela gets excited to hear that you guys are fighting now, you know, because this is our joy. This is doing this, you know. Um, our work with our with the school that we run is so gratifying because of the level of transformation that we get to witness, right? You guys did one weekend, you know, when you're in a container in a community and you're getting it like through your mind, you're learning the material, you're doing the homework, you're in these huge, insane process groups, you're in classes. We get to witness people um change very rapidly, and it's incredibly touching. You know, it's like Angela starts crying just listening to you, Brittany, you know, and I think I think that's why I do this because I mean, screenwriting and TV, there's always a way I was drawn to the drama of life, you know, like, and you can you can a lot of us we experience you know our the deepest emotions watching television, yeah. Um, you know, watching a movie. You let you let yourself feel things you wouldn't normally feel through the TV. Um, and I started off kind of providing that experience for people. And then I went into Ant's workshop and was like, I'm I'm in the movie. You know, I feel like I'm in the most intense, exciting movie, but I'm not gonna die, like actually at risk. But I'm feeling the level of intensity and excitement that I'm only used to feeling from watching television. And wait, this could be my life, this could be my life. So, you know, like Angela, it took me a while to be willing to leave my very successful screenwriting career, but ultimately, like, what's more? Like, there's just nothing more fun than that.
Goddess Brittney:You know, yeah, yeah. Uh vulnerable question for you guys if you're open to sharing. Um Um, what are the gifts, the light that have transformed your life and how you feel and how you show up through this work, through this process? Like, how has it transformed your life?
Jana:I mean, a really big thing in my life is my relationship with Angela. You know? Like I I I was always maybe kept I kept myself probably at a certain distance from my friends. You know, I didn't I was the giver, I was the one who people came to for advice. Um, I didn't really reveal my own needs or let myself be given to in a way. I stayed on top in my relationships. And um I have a memory of early, early in our friendship before we worked together or anything. Um like feeling like I couldn't be on the top with her, you know, and freaking out because I sure as hell wasn't going on the bottom, you know, and and not knowing an experience really of equality in friendship, and and kind of feeling that disorientation, the intense vulnerability of this being friends with someone who could give to me as much as I could give to her, um and how good that felt, you know, like just imagine what it's like to have Angela as your best friend, you know, like the level of help and support that I'm getting all the time. It's insane, you know? So um, and I really I think in that moment I really wanted, like I felt such a longing for that level of support. But the question was, was I going to let it in? Um, and uh yeah, I mean, this friendship has changed my life. Um, you know, our working relationship, like there's a lot that we have to go through with each other in terms of conflict um in the running of our school and in in just working through things in our relationship so that we can hold things for our students and for the community that we're supporting. And that has been very challenging and very growthful. And we, you know, trigger each other or have transference with each other in very specific places that some things like you know, they we get more consciousness around them and they get lighter. But there's it's scary, I mean, at least for me, still to be in conflict with Angela because I love her so much, and because the relationship is so important to me, that there's a real feeling of like uh in a young place in me, in of danger um that I superimpose onto the relationship, the a projection of like of losing or a fear of losing connection with her. And even though I do this work all the time and I teach it, and you know, I it's hum like it's good. It's like the humility of like I still have lots of places where I struggle um to be in reality.
Angela :Um I want to answer this question, but I I have to like my mind is I I want to also go back to something, yeah. Um, just be for the listeners. Yeah. Um because I don't want people to think that I am just like excited that you guys are fighting because that's you know, it's like that's not the point, you know, like that, you know, there are certain couples who like they need to fight more, and then there are other couples that need to contain more. Yes, yes, and so it's like, you know, we're like I just want to be clear, like that's not the point, you know. It can sound like there's a way in which this can it can sound that way, but um, so I just wanted to clear that.
Liset:Can I add to that really quick before I so also, yes, we have inviting more, which is fantastic, just from this place of authenticity. And and obviously we're not um, you know, beating a giant cube, it's actually just taking the risk of sharing where we are. And to add to the something I wanted to add to it was while we did not get to process our sexual fantasy, we got to explore in a way afterwards. Now that we understood the the concept of sexual fantasy and like knowing that that's our unmet childhood need, we both started taking risks there. And that opened up something beyond that probably needs its own podcast, just to the lots of great sex for listeners who are curious. Yes, yeah, like unbelievable next level. I mean, we've been together for seven years and we had the best sex of our lives, like since that weekend. So that I wanted to add that as well. It's not that you're gonna just just fight more if you need that, but it's like we got to the place we wanted to go through the most unexpected route. Uh-huh. So I wanted to share that as well.
Goddess Brittney:So and ain't that true about the universe.
Angela :Wow, beautiful.
Jana:Well, you know, suppressed aggression will negatively affect your sex life.
unknown:Yeah.
Speaker 02:Mm-hmm.
Jana:Yeah. I mean, that's a whole that also is a whole other teaching podcast, whatever.
Goddess Brittney:But that's us that that has sign up for their workshops, y'all.
Angela :But just to answer your question, which is a really great question, Brittany. Uh, you know, and you know, when you said it it would be it might be vulnerable, it's like, oh, yeah, like what Jana just shared is vulnerable. You know, I know that that's vulnerable for her. And I'm I really thank you, Jana. You know. Um, yeah, I guess um, you know, I'm I have a hard time like answering this because it's like the level, like how many things I could share is just, you know, it's too much. Um, but maybe to just kind of keep it what where what what Jana was saying, it's like most of my closest friends now are people who have done this work. And so that just just that alone is obviously like a huge, you know, shift. And what I talk about on a daily basis. I mean, this is Jan and I speak almost every day, and we speak and what we're speaking about, and we can, you know, we can get into minor or major conflicts and to work through the things that we're working through. Cause what we want to do is we want to embody the teachings, you know, what we're teaching. And so it's like we're we're in conflict and it can be heated, you know. And meanwhile, we're also having an observer self somewhere that's like, oh, look, here's my defense. Here's, you know, here's where I want to hide from you, here's where I want to get really aggressive with you. And we're we're doing it. We actually, you know, we've talked about like, God, it would be so great if we could have some of these conflicts on a podcast, but like to hear what we the process that we go through, you know, like being able to have that is it's just an incredible gift, you know, and it allows me to transform almost on a daily basis. So it's not just like um I'm doing one process or I'm in a you know, I'm in a session with my practitioner and and then that's it. It's like it's it's like a it's it's a it's a daily work, you know, it's a daily practice in a way, like the transformation that's happening. It's like what I'm trying to work with is is to let go of the judgment that I have about myself at all, you know, and in this process. And what Jana in my relationship with her, um what she does for me is she helps me to be the most human person that I can be, you know. Like she relishes in my humanity, in the mistakes I made today. She was like, I hope for this next year that you make so many mistakes. And I'm like, you know, I have to, you know, I've had to work on the conditioning I've had to be perfect. You know, I grew up in a very rigid household, you know, in I mean, I was I'm Chinese American, but you know, the Chinese culture is like you gotta, you know, gotta be kind of perfect, you know, and do it well and um not show your weaknesses. And so, you know, a lot of that has had to get undone for me and to see what's underneath. And underneath is a very human, very flawed person, you know, who is working through her shit every day, you know, while also being this practitioner, this facilitator, you know, person who can hold, you know, big things. But yeah, that's the part that I have that that I'm working on. And it's and to to the transformation for me is to really relish it in myself, you know, my my humanness. And I I am starting to, and it's like the most relaxing place because it means like I don't have to be something in order to be this practitioner, you know. I I can uh just be myself, yeah.
Goddess Brittney:That's such a great gift. All of us getting to be ourselves. Yeah, exactly. This has just been such a beautiful, beautiful conversation. And we would love for people to know how they can find you, how they can work with you. Like there's workshops, there's a school. If you're in the school, are you being a practitioner, or can you just go to the school if you're like, I want to experience it?
Jana:Tell people how so um the first year is a personal transformation year. So you just commit to one year. Um, it's it's year by year, but uh there's no practitioner training requirement in the first year. Uh, our first module is coming up in a couple of weeks, three weeks. Um what's the specific date? Last week, uh the last weekend of October. Great. So the specific date is Angela, do you have it?
Angela :October 30th.
Jana:Two October 30th to November 2nd. October 30th to November 2nd. And it's five modules a year in person plus integration calls, plus homework, plus we're we're gonna give you a huge education and experience um in that first year. And uh, if people are serious about wanting to transform and wanting to be part of a group of people who are also serious about that, then we would welcome them to come and and um we'll welcome them to have a schedule an interview with us, right? We'd welcome them. So something about our school is you know, we do we screen people, you know, because you if you do come, you're gonna be part of a group of people where it's it's appropriate for everybody in the group because the work isn't just like anything, it's not right for everybody. Um so you do have to apply, and then we you know, we make sure it's a good fit on both sides. Um, we don't have any workshops planned right now. We'll probably do, we'll probably do some in the new year, one or two in the new year. Um, but you know, if you're really excited by this, call us about coming to the program because that's the place where you're gonna get the most.
unknown:Yeah.
Angela :Is there is there a website? Yeah. Metamorphosistraining.ca.
Goddess Brittney:Awesome. We'll definitely put this in the show notes. You guys, it's coming up, and this episode is coming out this week. So there's time to schedule your calls, to feel into if this is right for you. You know, maybe if you have a dream, follow it. Um we are very versed in the taking steps and faith. Um, I feel like so many people who listen to this podcast are also been on this journey of if you feel a pull, if you feel a yes, if you feel like there might be something there for you, like take the risk of just scheduling a call. It is not a marriage proposal. There are no contracts. Like have a call and find out if this is something that calls to you and if it's something that you feel would serve you and in your life. We went for something unexpected, you know, sexual fantasy. I'm a pleasure priest as I'm like, oh, we're going to like a dungeon with like feathers. It's gonna be great, you know. It was, it was very different. And it was a it got to me to the place exactly where I needed to go, the thing that I wanted through the unexpected door. And spirit is like that for so many of us. So if you're feeling something, trust the unexpected door. You don't have to know what core energetics was. We had no idea, but literally, yeah. So um, feel into these incredible women and the space that they hold and what it is that they're offering. And yeah.
Liset:Yeah. And I just want to give a just notable mention to our friend Libby, who's been working with you, Angela, for years. And for me, when Libby does an invitation, it's always sacred. And so Libby was the one who extended that invitation to us. And I was a yes because an invitation came from Libby. And, you know, we got to experience your magic, and it was unlike anything we'd ever done before. So thank you for being the spaceholders you are. Thank you for the magic that you share in the world, and thank you for sharing with our audience. Like, we really hope that the if you feel called to this, you go and you just discover the love inside and the humanity and how wonderful you are just being you. You know, because that was a gift that you gave us.
Jana:Wow. Thank you. Wow, thank you. Yes, thank you very much.
Liset:I loved that conversation. I love them so much. Yeah. Like getting to tap back into that conversation with them. I felt the presence, authenticity, the rawness. I was there all over again. And I just have such a deep appreciation for the medicine they serve that we just were not aware of before going there. I know. You don't know what you don't know.
Goddess Brittney:We don't even know things were available. I didn't know being gay was available until I did.
Liset:We didn't know core energetics was a way to tap ourselves until we did.
Goddess Brittney:It was it was a reminder to me of those kind of deep transformational spaces, like when we were all pole dancing and literally all of my friends. Like there were some who stayed through and through, but like the core of my friends became all the women who I was dancing with at this pole studio because of the depth that we went to, the permission, the authenticity, it was just, it was so real and so alive. It was just like, I never want to stop living in this frequency. And doing this work with them, I felt like a whole new um opening of being in that kind of space again. And it's just like to me, the power of retreats, the power of transformational work, the power of facilitators who can really hold the fucking space for you to actually go where you need to go. It was just oh, so profound. Beyond. Well, speaking of retreats, um I have a really special juicy invitation for those who are in the Pacific Northwest. Or if you want to drive or fly in, do it. Because my friend Jess and I are hosting a day retreat Saturday, November 8th. It is called Passion Ignited, and we are teaching magic. It's going to be sensual movement introduction to pleasure magic. It's going to be delicious high-vibration food in a nature sanctuary. It's gonna be vibes, vibes, vibes, and it's at a fucking steal. Yeah, really. We are we are we are in the space of generosity and in the space of scholarship. So it is just 111. Yeah, you did not hear that right. $111 for you to have a full day of sacred ceremony, of ritual, of high vibration food, of sacred sisterhood. And yeah. And spots are limited. Spots are limited.
Liset:You do still want to keep it uh beautifully intimate while empowering. I will be there as well. Yeah, she will. Yeah.
Goddess Brittney:But yeah, if you like these kind of conversations, these kind of spaces, like when people ask us, how did you get invited to that thing? Or where do you mean? We spend time in these kind of spaces where you actually get to let someone know the truth of who you are and share vulnerably. This is an invitation, a sacred invitation to that kind of space. So if you feel the call, say yes. And with our dear sisters, Angela and Jana, like if you feel the call to what we were talking about, maybe you were just like, I don't even know half of what they were saying, but I just feel something, or maybe you fall asleep and you have a dream about something. Trust it. Trust it. Schedule a call with them. Their new program, their new uh module one starts in just a few weeks. And this is something that was truly profound for us.
Liset:Yeah.
Goddess Brittney:And really supported us in our path. And we're sharing with you, these are practitioners who we who we have trusted to hold space for us. So when you're on the path, discernment is key, and we love finding the best of the best. You're you're with the kings, y'all. We go to the best of the best.
Liset:We love the best. And if we I mean if it wasn't so great, we're not gonna talk about it. That's true. There have been things we've been to.
Goddess Brittney:Never been mentioned on this podcast. There have been great things.
Liset:Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So, and you know, as always, if you have a question, give us a call and 971-895-4111 or slide into our DMs on Instagram at honestfeedback podcast. You can write a message in. People have really been liking writing it in. Yes, they have Voice Anonymous. I know. And I miss the voice memos. Anyway, until we meet again, be honest with each other.
Goddess Brittney:Bye.
