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From Burnout to Being: Healing the Nervous System with Megan Mosley
Ever feel like you've checked all the boxes of success but still feel disconnected from your life? You're not alone. Millions of us are stuck in survival mode, constantly doing, striving, and achieving – but rarely being.
In this transformative episode, we welcome somatic expert Megan Mosley, founder of Body Wise Consulting and creator of "The Art and Science of Being Me." Drawing from her 35+ years of experience integrating physical therapy with somatic psychology, Megan shares profound insights about how our nervous systems shape our experience of life.
We explore why rest feels threatening, why stillness triggers anxiety, and how the path from numbness to authentic presence often passes through discomfort. Megan guides us through two powerful somatic practices – the "Butterfly Hug" and "Authentic Alignment" – that you can implement immediately to regulate your nervous system and reconnect with your true self.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Megan explains her revolutionary approach to decision-making: "I don't make decisions, I feel what's right." She introduces the concept of "universal imperatives" – fundamental human needs like safety, connection, and worthiness – and shows how connecting to these through our bodies provides clearer guidance than our intellects alone ever could.
For anyone who's ever felt like a stranger in their own life, this episode offers not just understanding but practical tools for coming home to yourself. As Megan so beautifully puts it, "BECOME starts with BE and ends with ME" – a reminder that authentic living starts with being with yourself, for yourself, connected to yourself.
Ready to shift from surviving to thriving? Listen now and discover what's possible when you reconnect with the wisdom of your body and the truth of who you really are.
To discover more of Megan's offerings, check out her website https://www.becomebodywiseconsulting.com/
You can learn from Lisset at her upcoming Huna workshop June 21-22nd 2025 in Portland OR, learn more here: https://www.lissetking.com/huna
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That's been a familiar place for me too, and I think it's just so, so common, you know, in a society that rewards going, doing, striving, achieving. Basically we're surviving our lives moment by moment, versus actually like living and thriving.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Honest Feedback, the podcast where deep truth meets bold transformation. I'm Goddess Brittany King, a pleasure priestess and a transformational retreat facilitator who helps women connect to their deepest truths, reclaim their pleasure and awaken their inner power.
Speaker 3:And I'm Lissette King, an emotional ninja and transformational coach who helps leaders release baggage, heal unresolved trauma and step into their most aligned, purposeful lives.
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Speaker 2:Through personal All right.
Speaker 3:Welcome back to Honest Feedback Podcast. We've got a really delicious juicy episode for you here today, and we're talking about nervous system regulation. Yes, yeah. What do you got to say about that?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's all the rage how do you regulate your nervous system? And it can be a lot, lot, especially when you're like living life. You're. We're in america, there's a lot of hustling there's a lot of achieving. Yeah, there's a lot of achieving, and so what if you wake up and you're just like I don't know if this is me, yeah, what do I do? How do I? How do I live? How do I, how do I exist through this?
Speaker 3:yeah, you know there's a. There was a funny meme going around that's like am I depressed or am I just living in America in 2025?
Speaker 2:Ooh shots fired. We're in America, so they're actually shots fired.
Speaker 3:Yes and yeah, I will refrain from the other joke that I have. Oh, because, well, I'm really excited because this person is incredible. Do you want to tell us a little bit about Megan?
Speaker 2:Yes. Well, megan is an awesome human. We got to hang out and I got to talk to her about her life and her story and meet her incredible dog, and so I was like you have to be on the podcast because we have a question for you. So Megan Mosley is the founder of Body Wise Consulting and the creator of the art and science of being me. She synthesizes over 35 years of experience as a physical therapist with deep training in somatic psychology, and she holds certificates in nervous system resiliency and trauma release, exercise and body coaching resiliency and trauma release, exercise and body coaching. She is a stand-up human being and just a wealth of knowledge, and I am so, so grateful that we get to have her on the podcast this week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely. And with that said, let's give Megan a call. All right, let's call her.
Speaker 2:Hi, megan, we're so happy to have you.
Speaker 1:Hey Brittany, hey Lissette, Really excited to be here.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, what an honor to have you here in the space in the virtual studio. In the virtual studio, well, we just shared with everyone your bio. But in your own words, how do you serve, how do you help people?
Speaker 1:words like how do you serve, how do you help people?
Speaker 1:I call myself a body-mind integrated therapist and so I love to work with people in coaching and consulting and doing some speaking work around helping them come into authentic alignment with the core truth of who they are, and my work is around integrating physical therapy with somatic psychology and somatic techniques to do nervous system resiliency, and I'm trained in trauma release exercise and we can talk more about that in a minute, but that's super cool. And so I've put all of this together in a way that I've created a framework called the art and science of being me, and I help people cultivate beingness like that state of being safe in themselves and present and engaged and really understanding from a nervous system perspective, that that is where we function, where we feel fulfilled, where we are in flow state and can focus and where we feel free to be our authentic selves. And so that's, I think, where life, leadership, connection, relationship, everything needs to come from that place of driving our lives in that year one nervous system of beingness. So that's what I help people find.
Speaker 2:Ah, amazing. It's in our title to human beings. It's in our title too human beings. Oh, that's incredible. So what led you to this space? So this beautiful integration of all of these different titles.
Speaker 1:I feel really grateful that my kind of arrival at this point in my life has come through just a really beautiful parallel of my own personal interests and my own personal evolution with my career. And you know, I started out my background is I'll date myself like 35 years as a physical therapist and specializing in meticulous alignment and really feeling like I'm really dealing with the whole being here. I'm really like that was my goal, bottom of the foot to top of the head. And when I turned 40, I was just at this place where you know I'd done all the things. I had checked all the boxes, I did well in school, I had the career, I had my own business, I had all of this stuff and I just wasn't like feeling the yummies.
Speaker 1:And part of that was I had been in a relationship for a long time, I was married and and it was just this very clear to me it was like I need to leave this relationship. I need to really like take the time to lean into understanding myself and like why did I make compromises in my life? Why did I stay in relationship that didn't work? Why was I? You know cause from the outside it was successful, but you know there was. There were some things that were really kind of lacking in a way of of come to find out truly being myself.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And so I sought after a therapist and I swear like total luck Like this is like luck or the universe.
Speaker 1:So I you know classic form, like I rode a motorcycle at the time. So I get over there without like a fucking second despair before my consultation and walk in and she's this very kind of quiet, demure woman and I'm like, in five minutes or less, here's my life, what are we gonna do about it? And she was like let me introduce you to this process. I do this kind of embodied mindfulness work and I mean it just landed so solidly that day Like I was in tears. I was like there's something to this, there's a lot I need to learn. And so I got to work with her. For you know, like it was a year and a half of working with her and and throughout that time, just integrating this intuitively right In my own work. And then she led me to training in somatic psychology, including like Hakomi and internal family systems, and another one called recreation of self, and another kind of universal gift of another breakup. That put me on an airplane next to someone who said hey, you know, david Berselli is coming to Portland. And I'm like I don't know who that is. They're like oh, I think you'd like this course. So then I trip into taking trauma release exercise, like I landed there and I was like this is the most spectacular, poignant, powerful continuing ed I have ever done. Right, so that was beautiful to like start to have that to work into. You know what I was already doing physically with people.
Speaker 1:And then from there I went on to kind of study.
Speaker 1:What I would call. The underpinning of that is nervous system resiliency, which is where I start with people, like giving them a really solid understanding and framework and roadmap of like this is my experience of being me from this place, of you know what gears my nervous system in, and so. So that's just putting all of those things together is kind of how I created this framework and and so now I get to work with people in this way that I just I have them stand, I look at what I call their alignment and I coach them into this process of authentic alignment. I look at what I call their alignment and I coach them into this process of authentic alignment and and then notice like what comes up in that, what stories, what emotions, and then work with people to be able to navigate their nervous systems with some different techniques, and and then I work in the trauma field, so doing the trauma release exercise. So it's, it feels like a really beautiful journey to have, like kind of just followed along and landed here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you've been trusting your intuition and being in the right place at the right time and seeing the signs and following your way through. So I'm so excited to have you here and your rich wealth of knowledge. I was like, yes, rich wealth of knowledge. I was like yes, she will be helpful to help us shine some light and answer this for our caller, our texter, exhausted hustler. Okay, are we ready to answer a question? Let's do it, okay, high, honest feedback.
Speaker 2:I've spent most of my life being the capable one, the one who handles things, gets it done, keeps everything moving. Eldest daughter here, with all the programs running. Doing has always felt like safety, like control. But lately I've been waking up inside this life I built and realizing I don't actually feel connected to any of it. I don't feel happy in my relationship with my family and the fancy job. I've checked all the boxes, the accomplishments, the success, and I still feel numb. I keep performing a version of myself that looks good on paper, but inside I feel like a ghost, even when I'm alone. I can't turn it off. Rest feels threatening. Stillness makes me anxious and, if I'm being honest, I'm scared. I don't know how to just be. I don't even know who I am without all the doing, especially when I'm surrounded by a life that still rewards the hustle signed, exhausted hustler.
Speaker 1:I feel that, yes, familiar. I mean, is that familiar to you guys as a place you've been in your lives?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I have felt, I mean I'm an eldest daughter, so one and like there are certain things you know, spent a lot of my life wearing a mask and performing and it is exhausting, and you're, my experience was just being afraid of like, if I let these plates stop spinning, then what?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I can relate from the place of like the stillness of not doing has felt uncomfortable. We recently went on a cruise for a friend's wedding and Brittany's. Like can you just stop learning? Like can you just promise not to learn anything this week? And I was like, okay, I'll try.
Speaker 2:I'm like do nothing, Look pretty, but like, but you know she, she loves growth and all the seminars and I'm just like sometimes, what if we did nothing?
Speaker 3:you know, it's like it's a no. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, like I said, like that, that's been a familiar place for me too and I think it's just so, so common, you know, in a society that rewards going, doing, striving, achieving basically we're surviving our lives versus actually like living and thriving.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, and that's you know, it's when we, when we think about the experience of rest, feeling threatening. I just want to speak to that from a nervous system perspective. So so the way that I classify it is that that, how we feel in any moment in any realm body, emotion, mental and essence that's what it means to be me. So these four realms of our beingness, how we feel in any of those at any moment, is 100 dependent on the gear of our nervous system that we're driving our life in. And year one is that gear of beingness and of living and of thriving where I said, you know, we flourish and we're in flow and we can focus and we're free to be ourselves.
Speaker 1:Year two is that you know, we've all heard of it fight, flight or fawn.
Speaker 1:And then that gear three is where we're in freeze or fold, and that's that's kind of what she's describing is that little ride between gear two and year three where it's like you try to come into rest and there's a little bit more quiet, but then it leaves room for things to come up so it can feel threatening and anxiety producing.
Speaker 1:And I just want to name that, that when we feel that kind of anxiety and that kind of threatening thing happen when we're slowing down or doing something like breath, work or whatever, that that your nervous system is a ladder and so that if you are moving from this place of feeling like numb inside and you slow down and you start to feel stress or anxiety or threat, that's actually more aliveness, the gear one where it's like we're moving toward the living and thriving, but, but we're moving out of this kind of checked out, no, and, and so I just it's it can be feel very, um, threatening hard. You know people like, ah, the anxiety is scarier than the numbness in a way, and people can be comfortably numb, right, but that just kind of knowing that I think sometimes it's helpful for people that that that kind of rise in an awareness of threat level, that kind of hypervigilance is more alive and it is toward actually living and being.
Speaker 2:That is super helpful to know as someone who spent a lot of time in a space of numbing and you know, just sometimes we hear like, oh, the way to the other side is through. But you're like're like, oh, if it's anxiety, that must I must be going the wrong way. You know what I mean. You know you get fearful, you're like, well, this Doesn't seem good, so I must have done it wrong. You know, I got a. I gotta go back this way, back through numb, try a different door. And so it's just really helpful to know that, like that's actually moving closer to more aliveness, like energetically, that does feel more energizing if you're in fight, like we're moving, you know, as opposed to freeze, we're still so, um, to get to that space on the other side yeah, it's that.
Speaker 1:I think that awareness can be really helpful for people, just having that framework that offers this compassionate understanding of like, oh, I'm actually not an anxious person, I'm anxious because of something that happened to me. Right, I'm having an anxious experience at the moment because my nervous system is stuck in this gear, and so kind of understanding that there is options to get out of that. There are ways that we can like in the somatic work that I do contact yourself move to be able to downshift, have perspective, to be able to make different choices and change Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, how does one start? So, like right now, she's basically saying I'm numb, I'm in a life that I don't feel connected to, like. Where does she begin?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, um, this is fun. Do you guys want to just play with something? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's play with some things, let's do some things, let's teach the audience, okay.
Speaker 1:So let's just we'll start off with one that's called a butterfly hug, and this is, you know, just one of many, and as I offer it, it's you know, lots of options. Don't do anything that feels uncomfortable in any way, but I'll invite you to take your hand, put them, palm towards you, hook your thumbs and they're going to just land on your chest. Yeah, and just notice, right away, this feels connecting. I like this. Both of you close your eyes right away and just play with, like the pressure of that, like what's just exactly the right amount of pressure, yeah, and I'm already noticing some deeper breaths just happening with you. And if this is a butterfly, it might its wings might lift and lower, so just lifting one hand away like a wing and then setting it back down and then the other hand up, and some people really like this. Some people don't like it at all. They'd rather just stay connected. So, notice what's right for you, notice if there's any way that you feel like she told me to do this, so I should. So allow yourself the choice. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, just like that little petting that you did.
Speaker 1:Lisette, like, yeah, just yeah, follow your instincts. This is an opportunity to be with yourself, yeah, and just we're watching out for those signs of settling. So in the body realm it might feel like a spontaneous, deeper breath, yeah, just that kind of like drop of the head that happened there, and the relaxation, the little smile Could be a tummy gurgle, lots of extra credits for yawns always. And so just bookmark whatever that was in the body. That was more of a shift toward year one. And then in an emotional realm, let's plant that.
Speaker 1:So, oh, I noticed this thing in my body. I'm feeling a little bit different, a little bit better Emotionally. What happens? Just maybe it feels brighter, lighter, expansive. It doesn't have to be an actual emotion, yeah, feel yourself, nod your head, the yes, the rightness of this, yes, and then in the mental realm we're just watching for just could be the slightest bit slower, a little less judgy, a little less worried. And then finally, in that essence realm, our essence is our, our beingness, our uniqueness, our meanness, my, our uniqueness, our meanness, my spirit, my soul, whatever you want to call it. And we want to ramp up the connection in the essence of feeling loving, spacious, attuned, attached, connected to ourselves, attuned, attached, connected to ourselves. And so just naming that it's like, yeah, I'm here, I'm here for me, and so I'll just let you both kind of organically unwind out of that, and then we can just begin on yeah, how do you feel?
Speaker 3:that was just absolutely lovely. I forgot we were shooting a podcast. Honestly, the energy of the day of moving in and out, weaving in and out of activities, just like absolute stillness in my mind, I found myself more present, emotionally just calm, I guess, is what I would describe it as. And yeah, there was a presence, the most present I've been all day.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, and what about you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what about you? Yeah, I just noticed like a gentleness and the slowing of the breath and just energetically it felt like lighter, freer, calmer, calmer thoughts, you know, like everything was just more tranquil, more presence. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so. So that's just one of many, many tools. And in this, in this practice, I say that it's not about doing something, this is about being with yourself, and I, I created these things called B&E breaks, and so it's there. There's there's a lot of science around embodied micro practices and just these ways in which we give ourselves more than just like a pause. It's like, oh, I'm taking a break.
Speaker 1:No, it's like really intentional, and doing that for like two minutes three to five times a day creates these moments where we cultivate this beingness, where we check in and we really like plant that experience in ourselves by doing the BME check-in. And these little kind of I call them, these little moments or these bubbles of beingness that we visit three to five times a day, just like stress, they start to kind of like stick in us and they build up and over time not very long actually we start to recognize oh, this is who I am, not just someplace I visit, and it starts to kind of build resiliency and create this downshift in the nervous system that it's like this is where I'm living more of the time now, so when I get to the place of feeling anxious or checked out or disconnected. That's more on my awareness because it's different than just the oh. This is just like the kind of stuckness that I'm in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my curiosity is like I love the stillness, I love the moments. You know, definitely a meditator and something that I can relate to with this, with the person who asked the question is this like the hustle culture?
Speaker 2:right.
Speaker 3:They're like we're not rewarded for the moments of stillness, we're rewarded for the dollars that make my money thermometer move and things of that nature. So how would you help someone separate from that identity?
Speaker 1:I think that that kind of goes into like why we even get geared up in the first place, Right? So as beings we are, it makes sense that we thrive in this year. One nervous system state of beingness. That's really who, who I believe we all are on the inside. That anxiety and depression and disconnection comes from when we're living in a way that is not connected with our own truth.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And our nervous system is developed mostly in our first zero to seven years and our needs at that time are for primarily, safety, attachment, attunement, autonomy. And if those needs are not met or there's some kind of violation of what I would call the universal imperatives and I'll list those out for you in a minute. But when we are not in sync with these things, way before we even have language, way before we even have language, our nervous system is like oh, it's not safe to be me, I can't cry, I better be quiet. Or I have to be perfect to get attention, or I have to know all the right things, or whatever. Our story is right, and it was my story right, when it's like I have to go to school, get the good grades, get out, do the job, meet the person. And it's like it was, it was my story right, where it's like I have to go to school, get the good grades, get out, do the job, meet the person you know. And it's like I'm following in the doing and not feeling safe to listen to the friction of what's inside of me. It kind of weaves into that sense of that awareness of like of ferrying out these parts of ourselves right In an internal family systems kind of language.
Speaker 1:What part of me feels unsafe? To slow down? Right, I've been ingrained in these messages of doing and producing and making money and that is that's supposedly what creates safety. Right, yeah, but but really, when we work ourselves, like when we come back home into ourselves that year, one is all about safety and the number one part of being safe is not not running from tigers, like we hear. Right, it's like that's not happening in most people's lives. Safety and freedom to be our authentic selves yeah, and these practices and kind of beyond what I just showed you and we could practice, actually, I'd love to show you another one in a minute that's a little bit deeper, but these practices are about I am valuing myself for being.
Speaker 1:I am coming home to myself. I am paying attention not to just myself in the moment, but what I call the through line of our life. Our system is our through line. When we're feeling that discomfort, that unsafety, it's like who is uncomfortable Developing this relationship with like? Who is uncomfortable developing this relationship with like? I learned that when I was five. Yeah, and and and.
Speaker 1:There's ways in which I work with people to develop these relationships with their past selves, so you become what I call the superhero of your own life. Right, yeah, yourself, you're creating different experiences. Be like, watch this, I'm going to calm myself down just a little bit. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually say no to this thing that I really don't want to go to but I should go to. And then, and then it's like you have this little kind of agreement with this younger part of yourself. It's like, okay, I'm gonna say, no, let's see how this goes, just let me, I'm gonna right.
Speaker 1:And then you, then you kind of plant that experience of like we're gonna stay to stay home tonight. Look at that Like. I just checking in again body, emotion, mental lessons, like this is different, yeah, and so that awareness brings choice and it brings the opportunity to connect, and so this is I just want to you know name that it's a. It's a much bigger rewrite than go to yoga. Do EMDR much bigger rewrite than go to yoga. Do EMDR right, yes, right. It's like you are really creating opportunities to be with yourself, for yourself, connected to yourself and building that safety that maybe you never had growing up.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, so I would love you know, cause I've heard a lot about internal family systems and would you share with the audience someone who may not have ever heard of this just a little overview of what that is and what that means.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so internal family systems is a, it's part of what's called a like, it's a somatic framework, so it's based on the belief that our nervous system, it lives in our body and it's what, it's our sense of safety and it's what tracks all of our experiences.
Speaker 1:And so internal family system is, it's it's parts, work where it, it is a way in which we from in their language called this like my self, energy, my core, true aligned self that really has this.
Speaker 1:Maybe there are these sparkly moments of like that's who I am, that's what's right for me, this is true, like that's the self, right, and then noticing that when we get triggered in certain ways or we find ourselves living our lives in ways that we're like and it doesn't feel right we, we begin to know these other parts of ourselves, the beliefs that they hold, how they show up at times, and it's through this way of developing relationship and, in times, actually rescuing right.
Speaker 1:There might be this way in which, like when I work with people, I work with them in, I combine these things. So I do trauma release exercise. So people are literally like tremoring on the ground and this like release reflex, and then that brings up similar to psychedelics, memory, emotion, and it's like, oh my God, it's in my stomach, it's this, what is that? And it becomes this memory, this belief system, and so. So then we're working on, actually, from the self energy, envisioning going back, meeting that part of yourself, you know, being with them, hearing them, feeling them, rescuing them in the long run, pulling them out of there.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And so. So it's just incredibly powerful, beautiful work and it's you know, it's. It's developed by this guy, dick Schwartz. I can't even tell you how long ago he started doing this, but it is. You know, it's being touted now by Bessel van der Kolk, who wrote the Body Keeps the Score. He's like it's really the only therapy that works. It is very different than just straightforward talk therapy. It's very different than cognitive behavioral therapy. It's really not trying to fix yourself. It's noticing these parts that are frustrated, that are angry, that are whatever, and that those parts all have a purpose, they're all trying to make us safe and that there's never any part that's bad. So we kind of correct that shame, we correct the wrong. It's like we move into rewriting our experience with compassion and love and connection. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's great. That's a great overview and explanation. Wow, yeah, oh, that's great. That's a great overview and explanation. Yeah, oh, yes, I just want to pick up a thread before we lose it, cause I'm a listener this way. So earlier you mentioned, um, something that you a list you would tell us about later. I it sounded like it's something like oh, at birth, if these things aren't met, yeah, so I call these universal imperatives, that's it.
Speaker 1:And they are just like the ises, so like I'll say these and then just notice yourselves and for the audience here, like like what happens for you? Maybe you even have a bodily reaction, maybe you get chills, you know whatever it is, and so there, there, some might really resonate and some there might be. I wish there was more of that in my life, right, so okay, safety, love, connection, truth, integrity, wholeness, rightness, like that sense of like yes, that's right, not I'm right right beingness, belonging, worthiness, freedom, empowerment and harmony, and like this is everybody's like, nodding their heads, nobody's like, you know, no, thank you. Actually I'm not really interested.
Speaker 2:No, I'll skip the worthiness.
Speaker 1:And some of these can be feel really yummy. And then there's also you know, with people that I'm working with, it's like some of them like they bring you to tears. It's like, well, I don't even know what worthiness is and but you're sad, right? The part of you that really is your true self is sad and knows that there's something right about worthiness, right, even if there's, like this longing that's who you are or a craving for something, there's always some level of awareness of these things, right. And so I use these as um in in this practice that I call authentic alignment and and really like physically embodying these pieces. So I'm happy to walk you guys through that if you want to play with another technique.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm open.
Speaker 1:I'm open for anything.
Speaker 3:Let's do it. Let's do it, okay, so we're going to stand. All right, so we're here, okay, great.
Speaker 1:So remember, as we're starting like you're not doing anything, this can feel a little challenging physically sometimes because it's different than how we usually stand. Okay, so I'm going to invite you to shift about 60% of your weight into your heels. So often it can feel off, kilter right. So often when we're like we're literally ahead of ourselves and actually can you guys turn sideways for me and then I can cue you through some yep, does it notice a face at each other?
Speaker 1:Whatever works for you guys, but yeah, that way I have a better one yeah, yeah, just inviting yourself into your heels, and about 60% you wait there and about 40% in the front of your foot. So like the ball of your big toe. Imagine you're reaching that down. And so, as you reach that down, you feel your foot. So like the ball of your big toe. Imagine you're reaching that down. And so, as you reach that down, you feel your foot start to get alive, right, yeah? And so this is where you're plugging into your charging station. So, being on your heels, I'm going to tell a story. As we go through this, I'm coming home to myself. I'm worth staying with, I'm worth standing up for Plugging your feet into your charging station.
Speaker 1:We're plugging into the universal imperatives. I'll say them again Safety, love, connection, truth, integrity, wholeness, rightness, beingness, belonging, worthiness, freedom, empowerment, harmony. So plug into that whole rainbow or plug into whatever feels especially resonant for you, but you're drawing that energy up inside. As you come to your knees, if you tend to lock your knees, give them a little bit of an unlock. You're saying to yourself I'm response able, I'm not stuck, I'm not locked, I'm not rigid, I'm flexible, I can go with the flow. Bring your attention to your pelvis and think about how you pull your tailbone under and your belly button up, so these two bones on the front of your hips face forward like a flashlight. So so many of us have our pelvis tipped down and forward and our back overarched. So as we're doing that you're thinking about, I'm creating stability in my body and in my life. You can start to feel with that how there's a little bit of like work in the core, and usually in the lower core, and then invite that up, so like if that's an elevator that comes up, you want to bring it into your ribs. And, brittany, I'll just say you're leaning back from your upper back. So if you bring, you're showing me this about stacking yourself so that you are like not behind yourself. But yeah, do you feel how that's different? Yeah, yeah, more connection into that the ribs right in the front there. So you've got this kind of like a, like a zipper from the pelvis to the ribs. And this is where this is your essence, this is your solar plexus. It's like I trust my gut, I'm listening to myself, I'm staying with myself, or I want to trust my gut if that's not true for you, and then bringing your hands there to that space, yeah, and this is where your essence, your gifts are.
Speaker 1:Like how you want to show up in the world and turn your hands, palm up good, and then you're going to start to spin your arms out to the side, right, so palm up comes out to the side and it's like, as you do, that you're spreading your wings and you feel your shoulder blades wrap back at the same time. Stay connected to the ribs, right. Stay connected to your essence, right, so you can feel that work in your back. Like I've got my back. I want to fly from here.
Speaker 1:You can let your arms rest down by your side, but keep your palms facing forward in the sense of like, presence and openness. Do you feel how that opens your heart? Like I'm courageously vulnerable right, it's too intense. Put your hand on your heart, bring your hand back to your body, but just notice that openness. You've got your own back. You can open your heart.
Speaker 1:This opens your throat where you can say to yourself I'm going to say what I feel, I'm going to say what I need, I'm going to stand up and say what's right for me, and then you're tall from the top of your head, like I'm holding my head high for myself, for all of myself and from this place, my eyes, even if they're closed, they're forward on the horizon, right, it gives me a wide perspective and I trust myself, rooted in the core of my being, that life will come to me. And it's from this place, connected to myself, my essence, my truth, that I am going to choose the next right thing, the next right thing, the next right thing. We're sourced and we're at home in ourselves. And this is the home of your belonging, this is the home of your being. And take and gather that and bring it back into yourself.
Speaker 1:So, a hand on your heart and a hand on that kind of upper belly area, right. And if there's anything you want to say to yourself, noticing here in the body what feels different, what feels right, maybe there's a sense of strength, maybe there's a sense of connection, notice emotionally how you feel here In the mental space, and then, finally, in the sense of like, yeah, in my essence, being connected to self. Okay, and again, I'll just let you hang out there as long as you wish, or else kind of unwind out of that and let's talk about how that was well, oh yeah great Yay, great Yay, wow, how was it for you?
Speaker 2:Incredibly grounding yeah.
Speaker 3:I feel again, there's like just an added presence in my body that I didn't have before. And alignment, yes, clarity beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I call this authentic alignment, and that's you know what you're describing there, lisette, with the clear. It's like we can be clear when our nervous system is in that gear, one that's where we have clarity, we have perspective, we have focus, we have right yeah yeah, it was very beautiful.
Speaker 2:I loved, um, as you were guiding us through and each part, like opened as it, as it built, it's stacked, and so then the next one was like ready to be there, and it was interesting, um, having a shift our weight into the like 60% into the heels, um, and like when you're like, a lot of times we're like ahead of ourselves and I noticed I've had a tendency to have anxiety, which is fear of the future, and just noticing if, like, if all my energy is towards in the future. I'm not in the present, you know, and feeling that in my body was just like a different experience of feeling that. Yeah, it was a really beautiful practice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Welcome, you're welcome, and that's that's one of the ones that I think is the most powerful. And it's free, right. It's just like you have your body right, you can, you can just, and and you know, we took a little bit of time with it, but once you get it down, it's, it happens pretty quickly. And then then you know, like my clients that are like we have these like micro, micro breaks where you're, just like you know, standing there and you're like, oh, on my heels, right, that's just as soon as you zip back into that, it's like the whole thing connects.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think that this is a really beautiful practice.
Speaker 1:And, um, you know, when we talk about these be me breaks, there's like the ABCs of the be me break and it, you know, alignment or attunement, um, like we did with the butterfly, um, attunement, like we did with the butterfly, attachment connection. The B is you know what's the body language of what I'm doing and the C is the checking in. So like circling back to that be me, like what's it like to be me now, not just doing something and going on to the next thing. I think that's where we get lost, right, it's like, oh, I did the breathing and it didn't really change anything. Or I did the whatever. I didn't have that whole cycle of I'm choosing to be with myself, I'm actually doing the activity, right. Then we have, like I just finished the activity and it's like now I'm going to plant what happened with that and it was like a really important part to really notice how that's landing in all of the realms of our experience.
Speaker 2:I feel like the overarching message is slow down, slow down, and so we can actually be present with what is going on. And for our listener who wrote in, who's feeling disconnected from their life and feeling like they're surrounded by all this energy of hustling, like the invitation being like okay, so you're noticing, you're not feeling connected, can you slow down and see what else you're noticing, and see what else is there and see what else you're noticing and see what else is there and asking yourself what? What would it mean to be in alignment, like you know, trying some of these exercises that you gifted, um, and feeling how that feels and just seeing what comes up from that space?
Speaker 1:and I will just name that. Like it is not an uncommon thing to have people come into my studio and we do this work and we, we, I coach them through this alignment. Tears, right, like you know, this kind of sense of like I haven't been home in myself. Be home in myself, right and worth, creating the environment, the safety, the time, right, so, and it will bring things up right. That's, that's kind of what happens when you know like we talked a little bit the other day but you're like like when you choose to come into yourself, other things fall off. Yes, jobs, right. It's like cleaning house, right. So it's like that we have to. Really, you know, when we come into ourselves and trust that when we do that, when we're in our own authentic alignment, that is where we magnetize ourselves, who and what we need.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, not to put you on the spot, but kind of experience of allowing yourself to come into alignment and being in that shift of my external world is starting to change and shift because I'm choosing to live in my own alignment and that moment, while you're magnetizing what is in alignment, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I've. I've had, you know, a lot of experiences around like just knowing that I needed to close my practice in Eugene and move to Portland, having like a sense of I mean, at this point in time, I use this as a tool, I don't make decisions, I feel what's right.
Speaker 1:So, but but yes, you know, in in coming into this, it's like relationships a lot of times that don't work, or at least being able to like say in ways like this is really challenging for me. This is, this is what I'm feeling and what I need Right, whereas in the past I might have just kind of like gone along, put my head down, done the, done the thing, right. But I think that that's, you know. Moving here to Portland, kind of you know choices and like again, like relationship, that that's been my biggest and those are hard right, because we, if we think that safety is in the relationship that we're in or the job that we're in, and you know I'll tell you, a huge one is that three years ago I closed my practice, like I was a PT for all of these years, had a thriving business, and I'm like years had a thriving business and I'm like I am not wholeheartedly feeling this, I'm not in full alignment with myself.
Speaker 1:I'm good at this, but I, I, my, my wholeness has a whole other piece right that I can't, you know, shove this into a little bit of icing on the cake. With the people that I'm working with, I need to like step out, lean out and come into like this is who I am, this is what I'm doing, and you know that's took, like you know, upwards of three years and I'm I'm building my practice back, but it's like, it's a big thing to be, like I walked away from like a nine month waiting list. This is where I'm at and I couldn't feel happier about it. I love what I get to do. It feels like a gift. It really is trusting in that sense of alignment, gut, heart and head on the same team. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thank you so much for sharing vulnerably from your own life your experience, cause I feel like it it. I know it helps myself when you hear someone else's personal story of choosing themselves and and life working out like you're alive, you're well, you have a practice. I met your cute dog, like you know, and I like I. I share this story with you. When lisette and I, in the pandemic, sold all our stuff and decided to live out of her truck and go on the road with no plan.
Speaker 2:And people were like that sounds batshit. And we were like, yeah, but like something about it is feeling. It's feeling more right than staying with where I am, and so I don't know what's on the other side, but I know it's no longer this. And so, having that courage to move towards what's in alignment and you know, I'm always a big fan of like wherever I'm going, it's going to be better, wherever I'm going, it's going to be better and so, you know, trusting and believing that I'm only moving towards what's better for me and I love that you brought in that word of like, wholeness, like I'm good at this thing, but I'm not feeling whole, you know. And so allowing ourselves, like she said, I have the job and the relationship and the things, and it's like that's fine and it's fine, but if you're not feeling whole, what else could there be for you? Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just what you're saying, like that idea of, of, like when we're in alignment right, I call that practice authentic alignment we're literally in a place of being, we're surfing the edge of the unfolding, right, it's trusting in the unknown and recognize we really don't have a lot of control anyway, right, but that's, that's where. But to be in that place of being, like I trust myself moment to moment to make the next right decision next right decision?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, yeah. I think what really struck me and just I love it is that you said you don't make decisions. You feel what's right. Is that how you? I was just like yes, okay, goals Cause you can. You can decide and logic your way into, into staying small, into staying small, you can look your way staying in that relationship, but to feel the truth and follow it, that's a gift.
Speaker 1:I've been wrong in doing that right. It's when I've questioned it that I have not. It hasn't worked out in the right way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, been there. This is the quote unquote smart on paper thing to do, miserable Like looking for the exits, not happy.
Speaker 3:I have a question for you, cause I, we, we get it a lot and it's like you talk about the heart, the mind, heart and gut being connected, when I've had clients and people ask me how do you know the difference between like I feel, like I have a gut hit, or it's actually anxiety? You know and it's it's when are when do you know the alignment versus like? Oh, I got a bad feeling about this, but maybe it's anxiety per se.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great question and I would go back to that sense of, of that internal family systems type of framework where it's like what, what's happening? Like, is it anxiety? Who's anxious about what? Is that actually true? Like so in this place of like, from this place of witnessing being like, is it true? Do I need to be anxious about that? Okay, I'm listening to you, I'm hearing that. Is it you place of like, from this place of witnessing being like is it true? Do I need to be anxious about that? Okay, I'm listening to you, I'm hearing that. Is it you know? Like, do we need to exit? Do we need to stay? Do we need to? You know, like from from this whatever five-year-old perspective, right, but feeling heard in that and being like actually, when I sense into myself, when I get into this alignment and this is a game changer I promise you to practice this authentic alignment, really feeling like, rooted in and sensing in those universal imperatives like safety is ringing for me today, worthy is ringing for me today. That's how you sense into, like, that's what's landing authentically, and anxiety is often kind of the opposite of one of those imperatives that isn't being met.
Speaker 3:Thank you, that's actually very clear.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is such a great, great, great conversation. I just want to thank you so much for sharing your wisdom, your wealth of knowledge, with our community and like practices that one can take home, Like what a gift If someone our listener or others want to reach you on a find out more about what you do, how can they find you?
Speaker 1:Um, I have a website. I'm here in Portland and I work um one-on-one and also online. Uh, you can find me at becomebodywiseconsultingcom, and on there there's all kinds of things about the Be Me Break and how you can develop that. The framework is there. There's a free, authentic alignment guided practice. You can learn about one-to-one coaching. I have an online course. I do some speaking and some retreats, so you can find out all the ways to find me on that website. And I'm also on social. You can find the links on the website too.
Speaker 2:Fantastic, we will definitely make sure to have those in the show notes. And yeah, if there was any overarching message or anything, you would want someone. If there was one nugget you wanted someone to take from this conversation, what would that be? That you're worth being with?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like this is like to really come home to yourself and, you know, become all of who you are. I love that word become, because it starts with B and it ends with me right, it's like we've always been there, and so that I think that knowing become because it starts with B and it ends with me, right, it's like we've always been there, and so I think that knowing that it is not only possible, it's actually quite powerful and fairly easy to be able to tap into these. You know, what we're seeing in science is proof of like, oh, this is how I come home to myself. So, to believe that it's possible, to know that you're worth it and show up for yourself, I promise it works.
Speaker 3:Gosh, that's so good. I learned so much from you today. Thank you for sharing.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is incredible, and I already can think of so many people I would send in your direction, because embodiment work is so powerful. So thank you for doing the Lord's work.
Speaker 1:Really fun. I love the conversation and it was really fun to like guide you guys through and just to be able to witness and and support you in that and it's yeah.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. Oh, so good. Well, thank you so much and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3:I am blown away by Megan. I told you you did, you did. You're like we got to have her on here. Well, first of all, I just there's so much I didn't know about somatics and nervous system regulation, what she taught us about IFS. Like I am just, I love learning. You know this about me. Have you guys heard that I love learning.
Speaker 2:Do you guys know?
Speaker 3:Lissette loves learning. I love learning, and this one was chock full of learning and exercises. Like we can actually apply this in our lives. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:I am so excited and I feel so grateful that this caller trusted us with their question and with what's going on in their life, because, I mean, I have been in that experience where you're like, well, nothing's working right. So like maybe I'll try talk therapy or someone's at this about MDMR, like maybe I should try this diet Keto helps, I don't know. But like having, have you had enough protein, have you?
Speaker 2:had enough protein, yes, but, um, having this kind of body of work and you know, I'm all about the embodiment practices but when we get our body online and we actually start to understand and work with our body, that is where we can really create this lasting change, and so I feel so grateful that she taught us I mean, try these techniques out. If you weren't doing them with us in real time, like, save this episode and come back to it and try these exercises out. They you weren't doing them with us in real time. Save this episode and come back to it and try these exercises out. They really are something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm feeling that alignment, what she said about the decision.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, the decision quote that she doesn't make decisions. She feels into what's right.
Speaker 3:She feels into what's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's like oh.
Speaker 3:God, yes, I'm scanning it, putting in my neurology.
Speaker 2:Yes, living that life right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she is just incredible. So happy to have her on.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. If you want to find more about her, her links are in the show notes. You know where it is. Well, it's a great time to subscribe, to tell a friend and if you have a question, send us a text, like these people do, or slide into the DMs 971-895-4111. We are here, we are available, we are giving a service and, as you can see, we have an amazing wealth of community. Who has so much information, so much wisdom. So we are always happy to phone a friend and bring on the best of the best to support you with whatever it is that you are moving through.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and until we meet again, be honest with each other. Bye.
